Joseph Roty, Mazis Chambertin Vintage:2016 which means around age 10-12

which means around age 10-12 give or take

I can't wait to try both in 15 to 20 years

is steady and strong

Trasnocho is Fernando Remirez de Ganuza’s take on a more contemporary style

crisp red fruits (wild strawberry and cranberry) with a sharp

Joseph Roty, Mazis Chambertin Vintage:2016 which means around age 10-12(from Mazis Bas). A big step up in aromatic elegance and complexity and while the toast is not subtle, neither is it really intrusive though it continues onto the punchy, powerful and rugged medium full flavors that culminate in a dusty, rich, mouth coating and extremely long finish. This is distinctly sauvage in character with moderate toast, which should integrate though it wouldnt surprise if there wasnt always a residual influence, even with time